they didn't serve in the senate together like obama and mccain did. really the only times they've met have been in the context of campaigning against one another, being on the debate stage together. so i don't think there was any way for them to get together and have it not be sort of stiff and awkward. >> and in fact, david gregory was reporting that romney doesn't want a part in fiscal cliff negotiations. there were reports that his team said, look, he's not looking for anything from the president, but is there some role he could play given his experience, joy-ann, at some point in the next year or so? >> i mean, i think the difficulty for mitt romney and the challenge has always been that there really isn't a romney wing of the republican party. it's not like he can bring to bear constituency beyond maybe wall street. that wing of the party was more his niche. but the president can sort of talk to other people in the wall street wing. you know, he had some ceos over to the white house the other day. some of them represent that wing just as much as